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Re: Good to hear Point 4: reiterated (none / 0)

There were more, some not so positive but I made a choice to focus on the positives.  

One little tidbit on the negative, encouraging the bloggers to discuss how the Caucus system is not a fair representation.  The example she used were beauty pageant primaries that follow the official Caucuses and how much better she did in the primary.  

The argument fully ignores that they are in fact meaningless with low turn out, but what the heck let's not focus on the negative.  


"The best way to show that a stick is crooked is not by arguing about it or spending time denouncing it, but to lay a straight stick alongside it" -DL Moody
by nextgen on Fri May 16, 2008 at 09:58:04 PM EST
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la la la la la (none / 0)

I didn't hear anything negative if you didn't ;)


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by Lost Thought on Fri May 16, 2008 at 10:00:18 PM EST
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Re: Good to hear Point 4: reiterated (none / 0)

http://www.taylormarsh.com/audio.php?aud io=http://www.taylormarsh.com/podcast/mp 3/stream.2008-05-16.134204.mp3

Over at Taylor Marsh they have the podcast. Here it is.

If the link doesn't work you can go to her website.


Obama/Clark (still dreaming)
by spacemanspiff on Fri May 16, 2008 at 11:03:48 PM EST
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Re: Good to hear Point 4: reiterated (none / 0)

She does sound like a nice person. Yesterday she went overboard with her "300 paid bloggers" diary but other than that I respect what she does and have always stated that.


Obama/Clark (still dreaming)
by spacemanspiff on Fri May 16, 2008 at 11:06:53 PM EST
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I must disagree (2.00 / 2)

with this comment and the core of the meaning

"The argument fully ignores that they are in fact meaningless with low turn out, but what the heck let's not focus on the negative.  "

Are you trying to tell me that the primary votes that "didn't count" had low turn out? I totally disagree!

Try taking a look at WA state. More than 3 times the amount of people voted in the primary compared to the caucuses. Anyone who thinks ALL of those people, who STILL wanted to voice their vote no matter that it did not count, could have or should have caucused is a fool. There is NO WAY, it was already a huge cluster F and would have been total anarchy if all those people had showed up.

I don't want to hear the false argument that "people who caucused did not vote in the primary", etc. There are people that did BOTH (like they did in TX .. I know their F'd up double vote system counts), there are people that only caucused and there are people that only voted in the primary.

I would bet that MOST old people and disabled people did not caucus. Yes there were some of both in my caucus but some also left early because it was to CROWDED and some of the O supporters became a little too pushy.


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by kevin22262 on Fri May 16, 2008 at 11:28:09 PM EST
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Re: I must disagree (none / 0)

I'm not going to fight or argue but you must admit the election after the election is not a good predictor of voter intent.  

That's all I was saying.  

And yes turnout was small compared to the trend in other primary's this season.  


"The best way to show that a stick is crooked is not by arguing about it or spending time denouncing it, but to lay a straight stick alongside it" -DL Moody
by nextgen on Fri May 16, 2008 at 11:42:47 PM EST
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Re: I must disagree (2.00 / 1)

I still disagree with your last point and partially agree with your first point .. and that would go for TX also.

Deal?  :)


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by kevin22262 on Fri May 16, 2008 at 11:45:05 PM EST
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Re: I must disagree (2.00 / 1)

Fair enough, reasonable people can agree to disagree  :)


"The best way to show that a stick is crooked is not by arguing about it or spending time denouncing it, but to lay a straight stick alongside it" -DL Moody
by nextgen on Fri May 16, 2008 at 11:50:29 PM EST
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